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good morning endeavor

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morning tom

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this is carl and we see your tips on and

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we have we're still working on the

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execute package we'll have it up to you

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okay carl sorry um thanks for looking

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for the tips message

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we see the waves and we could use some

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okay winston thank you

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endeavor houston the flight director

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wants to know who buzz lightyear is down

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and we're into midnight

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hi dan barry

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houston endeavor freebies

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go ahead preview

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yeah sorry uh we've uh completed

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checkout except for the last 15 minutes

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of battery charge check and both seats

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great news dan and we concur

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yeah we got a bunch of thumbs up down

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rizz we're just about to go live to the

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shuttle endeavour where the astronauts

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are about 250 miles above us hurdling

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are on the grove at about 17 000 miles

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an hour and joining us up there on the

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flight deck is commander brian duffy

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first of all good morning commander or

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whatever time of day it is for you

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i'm first of all curious about the

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evasive maneuver you had to perform to

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avoid a dead defense department

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satellite tell us a little bit about

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that and how that worked out

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i'm sure miles and you know it wasn't

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any big deal for us

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there are a lot of things in orbit in

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space we know where they are and just so

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happened we were going to get

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close enough to one to just make the

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folks on the ground safe we just made a

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small maneuver we could avoid it

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completely and make it no problem so but

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we did that it was no big deal

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i'm curious we were able to see anything

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at all from the orbiter we were able to

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see that dead satellite or were you too

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far away

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actually by the time we did the maneuver

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early enough so that we were so far away

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from it i don't think we could have seen

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it

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the u.s space command in colorado

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springs colorado tracks some seven

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thousand man-made objects up there that

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are either dead or active satellites

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especially as you look toward building

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an international space station how big a

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well you know i mean the fact that it's

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here is certainly

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a concern now quantifying the size of

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that concerns a different story um you

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know we're not that worried about it we

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think we have very good models and a

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fairly good understanding of the

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situation and it's one in which you know

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we're very comfortable with proceeding

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with building a space station

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you know we're happy to come fly in the

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shuttle with all that stuff up here too

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i guess uh for the folks at home though

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they should understand that even a small

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fleck of paint can cause some damage to

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an orbiter when you consider the speeds

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well that's that's true and that's just

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uh because of the physics of the

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situation you know it's

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one half the mass times the velocity

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has kinetic energy involved and if you

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have vehicles and

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objects going very quickly yeah it could

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be a concern

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all right i want to shift gears here a

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little bit and i'll open this up to

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anybody who'd like to take this

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during the launch just the other day

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one couldn't help but think a little bit

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about the challenged challenger disaster

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which occurred 10 years ago this month

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uh the temperature was kind of chilly at

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the cape and a lot of the parameters for

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launching uh under those circumstances

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were developed after the challenger

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accident how much was challenger on

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well miles i'll take that one the reason

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i'll do that is because i'm the only

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member on the crew that was

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in the astronaut office at the time the

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challenger occurred and um

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we're very aware of course of the 10th

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anniversary of challenger

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it's hard not to not to be they were our

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friends

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we think we're carrying on we know we're

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carrying on exactly what they set out to

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do we know they'd be very proud of us

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we weren't worried about it that morning

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but it's the fact that the 10th

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anniversary is coming up the challenger

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has been on our minds some

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i'm curious how much on a day-to-day

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basis within nasa does the challenger

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accident loom in discussions decisions

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um well well you know the um

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after a challenge occurred

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we took a very uh tough look at the

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agency and the way decisions were made

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and we made an awful lot of changes and

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the system that we have produced as a

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result

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of the changes that we made

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is very good you can look at our track

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record here we've done an excellent job

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and we're all very confident in the

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system and we think it'll continue to

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launch vehicles safely

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are you satisfied and that could go for

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all of you here are you satisfied with

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development on a next generation of

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manned spacecraft a single stage to

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orbit craft for example or would you

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have predicted perhaps 10 years ago that

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we would have been a little further

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no one wants to take that one

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well i think i think we're all very

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happy flying the shuttle uh it was

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designed many years ago but this is 74th

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mission and it's proved to be very

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reliable we've learned more and more on

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each mission

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about the vehicle itself and that data

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are going to be used to design the next

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generation spacecraft there are some

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efforts underway although not full-blown

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for a replacement for the shuttle but of

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other manned vehicles being looked at

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and we're hopeful that uh that we'll go

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ahead and forge on when the shuttle gets

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old enough that that we will want

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another vehicle

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i know recently nasa administrator

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daniel golden was actually critical of

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the pace of new rocket development

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within nasa there really hasn't been a

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ground up new rocket developed in the

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for such efforts especially in light of

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be a good thing i think we ought to

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start planning for a new vehicle we

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don't need one right now the space

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shuttle has been doing fine even though

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a lot of the technology is what you

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would call by today's standards old

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it's proven to be a very reliable

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reliable vehicle again and we have no

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need to immediately replace it but i

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think we ought to start looking at

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at a new vehicle

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by the way for our viewers that's

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mission specialist leroy chow and let me

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uh shift into the space walks which are

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planned here i know you will be involved

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in two of the spacewalks there are two

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the object is to look at tools

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techniques and equipment which might be

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you almost get the sense that nasa is

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doing its best to get as much space

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walking experience in it as possible

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so that you have an experienced group of

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astro construction workers when it comes

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time to build that space station is that

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well that's certainly part of it miles

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experience so that we can have that

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experience to draw upon when we do good

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in a full swing of

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station assembly uh winston scott behind

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me he's uh he's going to do the second

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eva with me and dan barry who's working

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first one with me and that will be three

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new uh eva people on this flight that

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get some experience but along with that

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the design concepts building concepts

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and maintenance concepts for the space

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station this is very critical the the

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results that we get from these flight

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tests are going to feed directly right

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back into the space station program to

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make sure you know they'll tweak what

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they have to tweak to make sure that we

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get a buildable and a reliable station

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not long ago there was some talk that

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the russians were attempting to modify

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plans for the international space

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station they were suggesting that

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perhaps their current space station the

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mirror become

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a core feature in the new international

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delay things and raise costs on this end

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i assume at this point astronauts would

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well miles i guess i'm going to try to

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avoid that question a little bit

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you got to remember we've been training

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for a year for this flight and

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especially the last couple of months uh

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we we've been very focused on our

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maybe dodge that one a little bit and uh

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maybe it's more appropriate for somebody

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in our management

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pilot uh brent jett uh showing that

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astronauts are good at all kinds of

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evasive maneuvers um let's move over to

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uh winston scott i know when you're on

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you're going to uh spend a little bit of

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time in the shade of the shuttle a

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hundred degrees below zero fahrenheit

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are the projected temperatures and i

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suppose folks in the northeast concerned

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about a blizzard should think about that

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for a moment tell me about the thermal

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modifications on this spacesuit are you

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uh satisfied that you're going to be

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nice and toasty up there

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you know miles as a matter of fact i am

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i'm very confident that i'm going to be

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nice and toasty uh the modifications

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have been worn before they've looked at

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uh how the other guys felt when they

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were a couple of missions before me and

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they made improvements and

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yes indeed but they've got

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a couple of modifications as a matter of

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fact i've got heated gloves we just

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finished our emu check out our extra

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vehicular mobility unit checkout i

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powered those gloves up they got nice

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and warm for me i've got what's called

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an lcd pot bypass unit that's supposed

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i think it's going to be i think it's

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going to be exciting besides the things

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start to get too cold up there i can

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give these guys a signal and they'll

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rotate me towards the sun and uh maybe

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send me a cup of hot chocolate out there

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but i think i'll be okay

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i suppose if you bang on the door or

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i sure hope so they owe me something i

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didn't bring my trumpet up here with me

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winston jett is also a big band uh

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orchestral uh trumpet player uh that

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would be interesting to try that in the

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space shuttle i i'd like to see and hear

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how that would sound

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tell me i think it'd be a lot of fun of

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course that's been done many times

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people i think don't realize how many

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astronauts are also musicians i happen

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to be probably the only one with a

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degree in music but we've got a lot of

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folks around the office that play music

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would not be the first to bring an

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instrument up and play

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by the way for our viewers that uh

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to translate a little bit of nasa jargon

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there that bypass he was talking about

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allows the astronauts simply to turn off

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the cooling unit in the space suit now

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that sounds like a simple idea why

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well miles uh it's a difficult question

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for me to answer being a new guy but i

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suspect they probably never needed

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needed to have that before we're looking

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space program we start constructing

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stations off

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we'll be seeing colder temperatures and

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therefore we need these improvements to

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the suits

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all right not pictured here are 66 astro

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i'm surprised they didn't come and join

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you for the interview we were hoping at

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least one of them would tell us a little

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bit about that experiment i understand

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you're testing out some high-tech rat

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well miles on this flight we're flying

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the animal enclosure units to test them

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out really it's a flight test for the

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enclosure unit there's no specific

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experiment with the net rats right now

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except to see that if they like their

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new house and right now from what we've

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they're getting along just fine uh you

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you'd really be surprised they're doing

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great i guess that's particularly

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important as nasa looks toward that

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international space station i assume

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there'll be some long-term rodent

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well i'm sure there'll be a place for

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them and uh and even closer than that

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down down the line we're going to have

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life sciences space lab missions in

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which we'll probably be using that for

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those same enclosures

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all right thanks so much to uh those

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four members of the crew of endeavor we

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appreciate you joining us at whatever

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time it is for you in york the course of

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your day up there

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and uh

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the mission of endeavor will continue

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until january 20th a night landing is

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planned at the kennedy space center in

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same

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and i've got the pre-sleep stuff for you